Dialogues on Divans: 1
jabey 22.01.2015 17:45
– Hi bud, in edging and denying here.
– Hi! Are you still edging?
– I was edging it for more than 4 hours yesterday restarting now, uncummed.
– That's great! Are you still in the process?..
– Yes, bud, I'm still edging it deeply here yet for more than 3 hours, and how are you there?
– Just churned dry. Feel like a newborn.
– Mmm, well I think you were churning dry for long?
– Not really so long as I want to. Not long for today.
– But oozing from your cock?
– I was. Now it's dry again.
– Love long edging sessions.
– Yeah, when I have a lucky chance it may last for days.
– Same here, usually I try to go for hours, but some weekends I can go for 2-3 days.
– It happens, yes. But really it's not good for other business all over a day. I don't have a time then for other interesting stuff. So it's better not to be too much crazy on it and to wish just voluntarily take a break...
– Yes, but from time to time that long sessions help me to improve my skills as edger.
– Sure!.. You are right! It's a perfect practice.
– And I like to have lots of endless pleasure through edging practices.
– Me too, sure!.. How can you determine – what is a multiorgasmic man?..
– Just a kind of life style that can be recognized with few chat sentences. Actually people who like to be in a constant evolution. Men not worried about to cum or not.
– Can you say that you are a multiorgasmic man?..
– Yes, I think I'm in the right way to be among them, and you?.
– I consider myself a multiO man. But there is a little nuance.
– Which one?
– Usually a man thinks that multiO man can ejaculate many times in a row without losing his erection and potency. It's not me. If I really let myself ejaculate, I'm lost for some period, and fully my potency would be restored in many days...
– I'm in a similar situation, I prefer to not really cum for long time. Actually, I practice denying when edging my penis. I have spontaneous spunks of pseudo-semen during long sessions without a really orgasm.
– ...But I am able to go through orgasm and elevate beyond the edge of ejaculation – so I'm here as a multiO man. I'm in a sort of edging, but usually when I'm already in a good mood – I do not stop before the moment of no-return – before ejaculation – I just go further and I make a sort of jumping over the precipice.
– I know what you say, you developed that strategy. In my case, I've learned to discard mentally the idea of to cum, in this way I can go and go and go.
– But I'm oozing the exceeds of cum when my seminal tank is completely full. I'm stopping and let myself to be cooled a little bit only when I'm warming up at the beginning of a session, especially after several-days break. But when I'm warmed up, I just go through endless orgasmic flying as much as I wish, and I can at any time make a break and then to follow up almost from the same point where I made a stop several minutes or hours before.
– I like to see how cum flows without orgasm.
– That's another male bliss – a milking. It's not really an ejaculation, but milking of the same seminal fluids that makes our seminal cup to run over...
– I understand what you're explaining me, I can also stop and resume in the same point of deepness I leaved it.
– Without milking and then churning dry I wouldn't never reach the blessing heights of my joy and satisfaction. As for me, the endless joy of milking and churning dry exceeds beyond all measures the joy from orgasmic ejaculation.
– Yes, I understand what you mean.
– So that's why I'm so amazed that males so wish to ejaculate and absolutely forget about their real satisfaction.
– In a way I prefer to be completely full for days or weeks, that makes me stronger at every new day, and I feel really in the best mood.
– You are a tough nut to crack. Your ancestors are proud of you – that you have skills and practice in edging, the experience they didn't learn to do while they were children.
– Yes, I developed a very high control of my pleasure, and I can edge for so long now.
– But you a perfect edger and long before your puberty, didn't you?..
– Yes, I started very young.
– Let's just imagine, if you have a son, he is around five and starts to masturbates everywhere like a demon, what practical knowledge about masturbation would you teach him first?.. Would the lesson be about edging?..
– I'd need to think in it to let him the best advice.
– But you had your own childhood and don't you feel that if you knew about edging much earlier it would be better for you?..
– Yes, sure.
– All modern civilization is based on a wish to ejaculate – bulky, loudly. But real multiO milking and churning dry do not make somebody weaker.
– Yes, you're right, in ejaculatory way you loose the best from masturbation that is to be comfortably installed in it in a kind of endless pleasure. No limits edging it uncummed, some hours, some days, some weeks, even a month. Just endless pleasure at every moment you like.
– A man can milk his semen in more or less abundant quantities, but it doesn't lessen his pleasure. It's just building up through his session. You are right.
– I like people curious as you that can be in a constant evolution making the experience of masturbation higher and higher. That's the way for me, too.
– When I was a teen boy I was under a huge influence of prejudice – that if I started to milk, it's the same as to ejaculate, so it's better to finish ejaculation for my better health. But really when a man starts to milk at some point of his masturbatory session – it's just the offering of endless joy he has never known.
– When a teen boy I started to edge, hidden of my parents for some hours. Maybe our teen experiences are what we try to do during our adults life.
– It's so simple – go further in churning dry, go on and on... Yes, if our parents were too wise to give their children wise advises about multiorgasmic masturbation – all the world would be much happier in the result and their children would economize a lot of strength and time!..
– Yes, absolutely, you're right, I'm very proud to be an intense masturbator.
– From the another hand – yes, it's much easier to ejaculate when we start to milk. But here plays its role all that exercising that we performed before. So, when children acquire skills of multiO masturbation long before they start to produce semen – they are much prepare to their adult life. Here the role of parents is extremely important. Do we have such parents? Mostly and mostly nobody. Will our children be more lucky than we were?..
– Yes, I started to edge my self before producing semen, my first sessions where at 9 more or less and where completely dry but so pleasant.
– Wow, you mean you start to masturbate at the age of 9?.
– Yes, man, trained for a school friend that was 12, that edged me for the first time. And I loved it... My prostate is so well trained since I was 9...
– So, you friend opened you a world of masturbation? You were a lucky boy.
– Yes, because I discovered that was essential for me, and that made me so curious for the rest of my life.
– As I understand, he also use you as a sort of a girl. I don't think it made any harm to you.
– He simply taught me how to get the endless pleasure and I also edged him seeing his incrediblingly face of pleasure.
– As I remember myself, I liked to play naked and aroused when I was a boy. And when I was alone I enjoyed my nakedness a lot in many circumstances. But I discovered masturbation only at the age of 13... Only because I didn't have a wise friend of any age... So, what did you friend teach you?.
– Simply the right positions of the hand around the head of penis and how to masturbate being not in a hurry just to have lots of endless pleasure. I didn't remember any special thing, we where so young...
– Your early experience is extremely important.
– Yes, I have lots of memories of my first long hours edging it alone.
– How did your first experience happened?
– It was at school, with that friend I told you. He invited to go to the toilets with him after some mutual arousement in class.
– Did you experience some pleasure or satisfaction or orgasm first time?
– Yeah, absolutely an extremely pleasure involving all my body even without any cum at the end.
– What did information he share first time?..
– Just we have touched ourselves and he said it was a very pleasant practice he could explain me. I'm a very curious man...
– So, he just show you how your hands should stand and move on?..
– He did all with his hands on my cock first, after that I did the same in his cock.
– So, you got a sort of orgasm the first time?
– Yes, sure, it was an odd but a very pleasant feeling that I thought it was needing to piss.... but no piss, no fluid as a result.
– Yes, that's it. A sort of a piss but something else. Very familiar for my that time perception. Do you remember, how fast did you reach your pleasure that time?
– No, that's so difficult to remember, but I can guess it was just 4 or 5 minutes
– When did it happen? During classes or after the school?..
– During classes, sure.
– If during classes then how you could meet him if because of different ages you were in different classes?
– No, it was a multilevel class of maths.
– Ha-ha, the great time for math.
– Sure, it was too *smiley-wink*.
– Did you have other sessions with that friend?
– No, just one, it was enough to be taught.
– Did he make some explanations? Or did he just show you?
– He just show and did all *smiley*.
– How do you think from your today's point of view, what very important information you were missing your first time? Or nothing could be added?..
– I think honestly that it was enough, it was an occasion to discovered a new world avoiding the need to discover myself.
– After that when did you repeat your masturbation? The same evening?
– No, maybe the day after or in two days.
– How did you learn to edge and prolong your session?
– I think it was yet inside me, like a play with my body.
– At that time did you ever experience a sort of orgasm that led to the lost of erection and desire to go on? A sort of refractory period?
– No, even when child I had so often strong erections for long I can edge for 8 hours or more being stiff even now.
– Really, I didn't discover masturbation. I invented it at the age of 13 and was very proud of that.
– I understand, it was a kind of need for you at this moment, you were completely conscient of that feelings.
– At the same time I started to waste my semen a lot. And for me it wasn't healthy. I was weakened a lot. If only I were to know very simple my own nature of multiorgasmic pleasure!!! And churning dry of course... But what did you mean that your prostate was also trained? Was it through anal intercourse?..
– No, just a mental train by the long time edging myself and being a huge precummer since I was a child...
– I remember that I was a child and masturbated in the bathroom, I experienced a sort of ejaculations with a compulsive series of muscle contractions in my pelvic area with a sort of strong urine spurs from my penis. For sure it was from my bladder but the liquid shoot in some unusual way. And it never led to the lost of erection. Just very pleasant sensations. Had you ever experienced that?.. Yes, to get that I masturbated not by my hand but by the water from a shower.
– Yes, at that moment, my first sessions where always dry, but wet but just some hours after them. It worried me because after a couple of hours I felt completely wet of a viscous liquid.
– Viscous liquid at the age of 9-10?.. Where from did it ran?
– Yes, my helmet was completely thick wet a couple of hours later, just watered thick liquid, not white.
– What do you mean "helmet"?
– The head of my cock, inside the foreskin.
– And are you sure it was at the age of 9?
– Yes, it was, may be around 10.
– At what age did you have the first pubic hair (even just a little bit of it on your testicles)?
– I cannot remember that, man, I'm not very hairy.
– At what age did you start to produce a semen (with a character odour or without it)?
– May be around 11-12.
– So, you got a viscous liquid under your foreskin after some hours of masturbation. Did it happen after you finished masturbation?..
– Yes, always some time after, never during it or just finishing it.
– It's remarkably interesting! And now I would try to explain it. But at first can you explain it now by yourself from your today's knowledge and experience?
– I think that now too (and all over your life after you reached puberty) after somehow long and rich masturbatory session especially when you have milked nothing you get the same abundant viscous liquid under your foreskin.
Just a question, when milking you which quality and amount of fluids are you oozing?.
– It's absolutely spontaneous. When I didn't milk for a couple of days – a lot, totally much more than during a regular ejaculation. In the morning after I slept – also a lot. During a long-long session – from time to time more or less. But I want to stress once again that I do not start my milking voluntarily. For sure, I can start my milking much faster. But usually I wait until milking starts involuntarily by itself. It's like when you are cooking an oatmeal porridge. The porridge starts to boil, to boil and all of a sudden – the foam starts to go over the edge...
– That's great bud, I must say I'm not used to milk myself, I do just a helmet stimulation during my short or long edging sessions. Sessions rarely are shorter than a couple of hours. I can stop an resume later or the day after.
– It's like as I accumulate a hit and pressure up to certain point when milking is going from my over-surplus of cumulative and almost "boiling" under a huge pressure milk... I'm very sure now that the lost of erection and potency during ejaculation is originated from some reasons very other just simply from releasing seminal fluids. Practically, we can release all seminal fluids what we have without any harm to our health, vitality, mental condition, sensitivity and erection-potency et cetera... All seminal fluids what we have... Sure, if during multiorgasmic session we have released all seminal fluids what we had we would go further simply in dry orgasms until our body produces a little bit more of "milk", and milking involuntarily starts again. And we starts our churning again...
– Yes, we usually release tons of precum during my long edges. And I like to eat it.
– As for me it's much more delicious to churn it rather than to eat it... Much more satiation, satisfaction and joy...
– Even when long edged, after 4 hours or more I start to ooze a kind of white precum that is not really cum. More thick, absolutely white and without viscosity, just the pearls you can see.
– Wow, that's it!! That is a sort of the milk. But in reality – almost the same seminal fluids that you release during ejaculation.
– Yes, probably the composition is about the same but it tastes so different. It is a kind of prize of my cock when I put it long edged...
– From the other hand, it's just a pre-milk. It becomes a real milk during the churning...
– ...Just appearing after 4 hours or more edged, not before.
– That's it! Now exercise yourself in churning and you would get the joy you never had. But you need to do everything not to ejaculate. When your body is trained – you do the multiO churning as easily as a fish is playing in the water and as a bird is jerking in the skies... For sure, when we milked and churned everything we had – our fluids in seminal vesicles, a prostate, bulbourethral glands, and testicles are replenished much more faster than spermatozoa, so for a certain period of time – some hours – we may become almost infertile. Who knows?.. But it may be good for our girlfriends sometimes.
– Could you describe me how is the concept of chumming for you?.. How do you arouse to get that state in your case?..
– I would explain my concept. But at first I need to know what are difficulties in the perception of the idea of churning dry to you. So say how do you understand what "churning dry" means?. (I need to know because maybe I need to use another more proper words).
– The main concept, chumming dry is not clear for me, please.
– Well. We would construct understanding together now. Be patient. Right?.
– Yes, sure.
– It's so simple!!!.. What does it mean "churning"?.
– For a deep edger as me it's not a used word.
– Well, what does it mean "churning" simply in regular English?.
– I don't know the word, I'm not English.
– So, Oxford English Dictionary:
I. churning, vbl. n.
1. The action of the churn; the agitating of milk or cream to produce butter. Chyrnynge, cumbiacio (c 1440 Promp. Parv. 76). Surely the churning of milke bringeth forth butter (1611 Bible xxx. 33). The Comming of Butter after the Cherming (1626 Bacon Sylva §992). Hetty's in the middle o' making the butter, for the churning was thrown late (1859 Eliot A. Bede 69)
2. The quantity of butter produced at a churning. Salt is added. The churnings are then mixed together and sent to the market (1886 Pall Mall G. 21 Sept. 2/1)
3. attrib., as churning-staff, churning-stick, churning-tub. A vessel, to which a churning staff is fitted (1767 Percival Peruvian Bark in LVII. 229). Taking the Mountain Mandara for the churning-stick... Churn the ocean together for ambrosia (1840 H. H. Wilson Vishnu Purána (1864) I. 142). A charning tub, or charne (1580 Hollyband Tong, Baratte).
II. churning, ppl. a.
That churns, in the various senses of the verb. About his churning Chaps the frothy Bubbles rise (1697 Dryden Georg. iii. 400). The cows push out tolerant churning mouths (1856 Mrs. Browning Aur. Leigh i. 1125).
– Producing a kind of butter?..
– You got it!..
Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary:
1. the act of a person or thing that churns.
2. the butter made at any one time. [1400-50; late ME chyrnynge].
Shorter Wiktionary:
Churning, noun. The act by which something is churned.
– Nice, and how do you that with your trained penis?.
– So, at first we get pre-milk fluids from our testicles, glands and penis at some point of our readiness and arousal. We do it multiorgasmically, without ejaculation.
– Yes, I understand.
– Then some of us are somehow lucky to have foreskin. Even we do not have it, we can use a hand instead of foreskin or a sort of vagina.
– Yes, good bud.
– The more we are able to be multiorgasmic, the more we have erection and potency and wish after we have milked. Also there are more chances that we would be able to go on in multiorgasmic way without ending our trip in ejaculation.
– Interesting...
– Sure, we can churn dry and without erection and potency even after the most destructive for our potency ejaculation. Well, it may be a good exercising sometimes, but regularly the more erection-potency-horny wish we have, the more faster churning is going on, the more joy and satisfaction we get... To churn dry after full ejaculation will be somehow a painful and long-long job. But it's absolutely realistic too. I've tried it many times. It's rather the way of saint martyr than of a merry bater :}
– Yes, sure it would be so painful...
– And now we come to the next jolly part of our concept. Are you already ready?.
– Yes, absolutely.
– The second absolutely important part is – dry. Usually milkmen do not churn their milk dry – they need a sour-cream or a butter. They need something to sell – they would get no money if they sell nothing.
– Yes. But we don't need to sell any product...
– For sure, they can make dry milk and sell it – but usually they sell sour-cream and butter at the market... No, we need very real our phallic-made product, but we sell it other outstanding way. It's our mission on the Earth – to sell our milk to everybody and everything who and what needs it. Aren't we human males?..
– Yes, sure.
– So, we came to the point that in regular language we do not use a phrase – "churning dry".
– Yes, that's the point.
– And any vocabulary in the world do not translate "churning dry" properly. For example, the best what Google translate would make for Spanish people is – "batiendo seco". Have you understood from this translation too much?..
– I must say almost anything.
– Now we change the hand again. From the other hand, everybody would understand what the phrases "wipe dry" or "rub dry" mean. For Spanish men what is better to understand from the Google translation – "frote hasta secar" or "seque"?
– Yes, that's clear for me.
– Not yet so much. Be patient.
– Yes, sure.
– The point is that we, human males, have all abilities and possibilities to churn our human male-made milk by our glorifying phalluses to the condition until nothing is left on each of any of us glans penis. Some miraculous things are happening. During the churning the milk is started to be absorbed into the glans penis back.
– Good man, yes.
– Surely, not so easily that is happening. Sometimes that happens very fast, sometimes much slower, but the joy only increases... The liquid is absorbed first of all. And if a man didn't milk for several days after the first churning a lot of dry particles are left.
– How means that milk is started to be absorbed into the glans penis back?
– So all the man needs just to add his own saliva and churn again. Then dry particles are left much less. And again saliva and once again churning. As for me, even in the longest case I needed 4-5 full churning dry cycles until my glans penis – and the shaft of the penis, and my hands – became absolutely clean.
– Good, I know what you mean.
– I think, that only very small particles altogether with liquid can be absorbed through the skin of glans penis that usually is impenetrable. So, during repeated cycles of churning we a sort of milling the dry rests into much smaller particles that are eagerly and easily absorbed through the skin of glans penis. During multiorgasmic drawing the phallus literally "sucks" by its glans all the proper liquid it can find out. Because of the skin barrier the process is slow, but during multiorgasmizing and edging the reabsorption is fastened many times. And for the volume of full ejaculation we need approximately 5-10 minutes (maybe longer or much less) of multiorgasmic churning to absorb it through the glans penis back into the body – into a bloodstream.
– Oh, man, that's really a new concept for me.
– During vaginal or anal penetration a multiorgasmic man helps his beloved person to absorb all his milk through churning dry. And it's only one of endless ways of application of natural – absolutely natural – ability of a human male to experience multiorgasmic churning dry. Of a human male of any age, I would stress. Even if a male doesn't produce his own milk he is still fully capable to go through all his multiorgasmic cycles and to churn dry all saliva he has on his glans phallus.
– Yes, man, it's a very natural way to absorb our fluids after emissions or orgasms.
– So, I'm so amazed that this natural ability of a human male is a sort of hidden mystery from males almost all over the world. If we change the attitude of humans to male sexuality, we change the world too. Aren't we?.. At least we may try.
– Yes, it is, I think that the main thing is to live our sexuality in a natural way, without chemicals, just looking for endless pleasure.
– ...pleasure and the ways we can make all the world better too.
– Back to work now, cu soon
yes, I'll try to have more time to it this week.
– To churny work?
– To edge it.
– Do it well! When do you plan to restart yours feast?
– Probably tomorrow evening.
– So long!.. How do you manage to get without batting all the day?..
– When work is so intense I cannot edge a lot
that's why I like to edge for all weekend long when possible.
– What are you doing at your intense work?..
– Teaching and research, and you, what's your job?
– Research too.
– Now I see. Your teaching takes away all your male strength for today. Yeah, you need a break for a good bat session.
– Yes, that's the point.
– But you also may have a lot of inspiration for future batting while you are teaching. A sort of promising of pleasure.
– Yes, you're right, I like to think when I could restart my bate.
– These thoughts are a sort of relaxation and meditation.
– Sure, they help to improve as edger.
– Thanks for your explanation, bro. Enjoy churning dry sessions!
– Enjoy your time too!
