Dialogues on Divans: 5
jabey 01.03.2015 16:56
– What is so amazing and so natural for me that a man is able to eject a lot of his semen without any loss of his erection, potency and desire!
– I edge my cock for about 4 hours every day while looking at my favorite porn. I have lots of hands-free cum-dumps but I very rarely allow myself to have a full orgasm with pleasure. I know this isn't for everyone but for me, eliminating orgasm pleasure keeps me constantly blissfully horny. Last year I had about 20 full-on orgasms. This year I plan to take that down to 10 or less. My dream goal is eliminating orgasm altogether.
– Did you notice, during and after your "cum-dump", do you lose a little bit of your erection and potency?.. Or you do not notice any lost, just ejection of semen, and for your erection and potency it has the same consequences just as nothing has happened?..
– No, that's why I do hands-free cum dumps. I do not lose any potency (desire) at all – in fact my potency is even stronger... After I dump my cum, I lose my erection very slowly. Well, it takes it a little longer to get soft cuz it hasn't really had a orgasm, so it wants to stay hard. And even when it is soft, it is still feels kind of spongy an fat. I don't lose any potency after a cum dump. In a way you think you should, cuz you have got rid of most of your cum from your balls. But you stay super horny anyway. That's why I like doing myself that way.
– So, after this sort of ejaculation without orgasm you still have a strong erection.
– The erection goes down slowly, and even when it is completely soft, it still feels nice – sort of buzzed.
– When did you learn these good manners?
– I just love my cock so much. I always have ever since I first was sexual with myself. I have been so obsessed with my penis that it turned me into a total masturbator – that's the only way I have sex.
– So, you are edging a lot of hours and then decide to cum-dump. Or a cum-dump happens by itself and you just follow it?.. Would you please summarize your technique of cum-dump?.. As I understood, it's hand free. But how do you manage to release your semen and avoid the lose of your potency?..
– OK, this is how I have been masturbating since last spring, when I first read about "ruined orgasms": I look at porn and play with my cock for about 4-6 hours every day, on average. I edge my cock the whole time rubbing on it softly teasing it. I do not masturbate to orgasm. I do this every day for about 6-12 days, without cumming or having a orgasm, then after 6-12 days, I decide to do a cum-dump. Sometimes, I pick a day and write it on the calendar as the day I will empty my balls. To do this, I will rub the shaft of my hard penis up and down – not edging but actual normal masturbation rubbing up and over the head, etc. As I feel myself getting close to ejaculation, I STOP rubbing up and down. Instead, I just jiggle the base of my penis with my finger and thumb with short up-down movements. I do NOT touch anywhere near the sensitive head of my cock. Right before my semen starts to flow, I do not touch my penis at all. As I begin to feel my balls erupt and start to send up the sum, I stop all touching and just try and force out my semen by contracting my cock muscles. The result is I will have an ejaculation after about 1 minute, but there is very little pleasure. I usually am able to shoot out two or three big long ropes of my semen. Then I let my frustrated cock go soft. But like I said earlier, it takes a little while cuz my cock knows that it hasn't had a real orgasm (pleasure). But eventually it will go soft. And meanwhile, I still feel totally potent and horny. I hope that this helps.
– Do you avoid to continue your masturbation session after your "cum-dump" ejaculation?
– I just wait about 10 minutes then go back to edging it back up hard.
– Right before your semen starts to flow, you do not touch your penis at all – because otherwise you would go into inevitable ejaculation and would lose your erection and potency?.. Right?.. But if you do not touch, you just expel your semen but you retain your erection and potency. Correct?..
– I do not touch my penis at all right before the semen starts to flow otherwise I would go into inevitable orgasm (pleasure) + ejaculation. This way, I only have the ejaculation of my semen with NO pleasure; in fact sometimes there is a bit of pain, but that's ok because I still maintain my potency and lust, even though my balls are empty.
– At what age and how did you find out that if you let your body ejaculate without touching your penis you would retain a lot of your potency and erection and lust?.. Do you have any explanations or just guesses about this phenomenon?..
– I only just discovered how to do this last spring. I had read somewhere about "ruined orgasms" and it sounded like a fun thing to try, right? I am a total masturbater so I am always looking for different kinds of ways to do it. After a couple of times, I tried it. I got really good at timing it an knowing when to stop touching my cock. etc. I can't explain how it works – to me it is like I am short circuiting my cock and ball function. I hope you are able to do it too. Because I have been into cum denial for a couple years now, this seems like a great way to still be into denial but also let out the cum so it doesn't build up pressure in my balls.
– And as I understand, your dumping cum is usually oozing but does not strike as during ejaculation, right?..
– It does strike – usually two fast ejections only.
– And what about the amount of cum? The same amount as during regular ejaculation or twice less?..
– Usually it is two big squirts and that's all.
– What do you do with your semen after you have a "cum-dump"?.. Do you wash it out?.. Do you eat it?.. Do you save it in a refrigerator?..
– Sometimes I dump it onto a pair of my underwear and eat it. Sometimes I save it on my cum rag for enjoying later. But usually I just let it spray and fly and land wherever – on the floor, carpet or furniture, couch etc. I don't usually clean it up – just let it dry there.
– Thank you for your amazing story and inspirational example!..
– I really like the stuff you post and talk about! Sounds like we are very similar. Thanks! I got hard reading.
– Yes, we both are learning how to improve our handling of what we have from our birth. In my masturbation I very rarely stop now at the peak leading to ejaculation. I just make a sort of jump over it and then I fly in what I call a multiorgasmic response. I noticed that I always have two choices – or to jump into ejaculation with all its sequences and refractory period or to jump over it and be able to fly then. But before talk with you I never thought about not-touching ejaculation. Although, it's very interesting phenomenon that I can reproduce too. I think that when I do not touch my penis this way I do not let my arousal to elevate higher, so previous level of arousal leads to a sort of abundant milking, but is not sufficient to produce ejaculatory orgasm. It proves that ejaculation and orgasm are different responses, and that urge to ejaculation is going first... But it doesn't give me so much joy and satisfaction as flying over the ejaculatory inevitability like a bird is flying high in the sky over deepest precipices and gorges underneath. And especially when I start milking and churning!.. So, at this stage, I may guess, that the urge to ejaculatory orgasm and a possibility to experience a multiorgasmic fly are interwoven tightly. That is the real challenge and chase.
– Sometimes when I edge my penis for a long time, it gets to the point where my whole body begins to vibrate. Then I stop touching my penis and close my eyes and just float along on that high. it is like a sexual drug state. I don't know how else to explain it.
– That's it. Natural drug, a sort of morphines produced in our brain. At first we just enjoy that state of consciousness. But then we learn how to use that assembling point in a constructive way. At some profound step we find ourselves in a state of lucid dreaming... Continuous temptation – or to rise higher and awake as a creator or to ejaculate and to awake as a creature... We need just carefully and patiently perceive and learn ourselves. All answers are in our body...
– Have you ever tried – even just for pure curiosity – to churn your milked semen dry, especially when you were able to maintain erection and potency after your milking or ejaculation?..
– Yeah, I have actually done that. I don't have a foreskin but I just continued to bate my cock using the sperm that dripped down its side. The one time I did it, after a while my cock got soft again, but by then my sperm was like crystallized in my hands.
– Wow, so you did it too! Great! And how do you think, why do men are not so much fond of churning dry as much as they are crazy about simple ejaculation?..
– I think most dudes just like to shot off as fast as possible, then pull up there pant, and they are done. But real baters like us like to play with our cocks for a long time even after we ejaculate. I like fondling an playing with my cock until it is all the way soft again. I want to be the best masturbater I can be.
– Once and once again I tried cum-dumps, and the more I try, the more I amazed by mysterious and magicial for anyone male sexual physiology!.. Thank you a lot for your great experience and gracious sharing of your experience!
