Dialogues on Divans: 8
jabey 30.04.2015 11:30
– Really interesting (& arousing) stuff on your blog. Would be interested to get to know more about it, maybe in person.
– Thank you for your interest!.. I think that sharing experience is the best way to enrich it too. So, we may meet somewhere for bate session (although the place where I live is impossible for this purpose). Or we may communicate anyway.
– Sounds good to me.
– So, it seems that you are also very fond of bating, aren't you? Do you enjoy your piece of art every day? :)
– And yes, I'm very fond of bating. I appreciate it every day. How's yours?
– For me it's a part of morning exercising – orgasmizing, milking, churning, drawing up. What are you dreaming about during masturbation?..
– You are more diligent than I. I don't dream when I masturbate but often get excited seeing other men do it.
– Fantasies facilitate multiorgasmic sessions a lot. It's hard to imagine how to masturbate without catching stories for many and many hours along :)
– I'd like to hear more about what you say. My penis perks up thinking about it. Are you a masturbation coach as well?
– What about you'd eager to hear?
I do not really like to coach. I prefer just to have a joint masturbation session for sharing of mutual experience and stories, for creative development of techniques and for a lot of inspirational experimenting.
– That sounds good to me. Perfect, in fact. My favorite thing is to be with another guy who is masturbating, watch as he manipulates his penis and talk about masturbation – our history, experiences, techniques.
– As for me, I also like to share memories and know-hows during masturbatory sessions. I think it's the most fruitful way to enrich the practice.
– There we agree. Talking about masturbation while doing it with another guy increases the pleasure immeasurably. I can host.
– You are right, intensive pleasure facilitates gaming environment which is the best for creative learning.
Then we may set up our first masturbatory conference. The first topic to discuss I propose our experiences, problems and perspectives in edging.
– That's a lot of ground to cover in one session, or maybe I'm misunderstanding: do you mean our experiences in total or just in edging? Either way, it would be both instructive and erotic to discuss it with you. Especially if demonstration were involved.
Do you cum every time you masturbate? I usually do.
– It was a plan in general. And we would never fulfill our curiosity at that subject at once. We would undertake as much as we can undertake. And there is never something that should be in a hurry.
During my sessions I prefer to orgasmize without limitations, to milk as far as I am ready for it and as far as it is needed and to churn what I have milked with intensifying of erection, wish and potency.
I do not like to ejaculate. And definitely wouldn't be like to be forced to ejaculate. As for me, ejaculation is very bright but too much momentary, transitory and at all very boring in its aftereffects. If you ever got multiorgasmic sensations, you understand me pretty well. If you are not multiorgasmic, we would learn this practice together.
Sometimes it happened that I cum. And I take it easy. To have a multiorgasmic practice means to balance, dance, swim and fly always at the very sharpest edge and constantly to move this edge further and further. I do not blame anything when I fail and cum. It's also a great opportunity for learning.
I would add also that I'm vegetarian, do not drink alcohol, do not smoke, do not and would not take any drugs. I'm very interested in altered states of consciousness during orgasmizing so I prefer to be cautious with everything that intervenes with orgasm.
– I will be honest and tell you that edging is something I've always wanted to learn to be able to do but never got the hang of, especially by myself. I have had some edging experiences with a few guys and managed to hold off as long as they did, so I am able to do it with encouragement. But by myself I am hopeless. It would be interesting – and perhaps helpful – to try it with you.
How often do you play with your penis, and for how long? I am also very health conscious and do not need drugs or alcohol to enjoy playing with my penis. I also prefer the pure sensation and would like to at least try becoming multiorgasmic.
– Then it will be amazing to learn better these techniques through better feeling and understanding them. Mutual examples and touches boost the practice. It's very helpful that you have desire to learn.
I play with my penis when I have time and opportunity. And as much as I have time and opportunity for it. I hope that sessions with you will extend my opportunities and practice.
Also, I do not have STD, HIV, fungus and other infections and don't want to get them. So, if you have something that I should be precarious just tell me, we would have sessions, but I would know at what extend I should be be cautious.
Do you have any limitations, restrictions, conditions, rules, special circumstances, necessities, phobias, preferences, etc. that you want in advance to draw to my attention?..
– I'm very clean and careful and have no infirmities or infections, STDs, etc. I'm the safest of the safe. I'm not sure what you mean by restrictions or limitations. I will say that I am penis-centric – I don't play with my tits or ass when I masturbate – but if you like to play with yours, feel free.
No phobias or necessities that I can think of. I enjoy touching another man and having him touch me but if you'd rather keep to yourself, that's okay too – just the visual stimulation will be enough.
Are you cut or uncut? And do you use lube or go dry?
– Under "restrictions, limitations, special conditions, etc." I understand, let us say for example, that in all circumstances you would prefer to escape mutual masturbation, or oral sex, or anal sex, or you usually wash your fellow personally, or you wish that some of your friends would be present too, or you insist on strict confidentiality, or that you don't want for a session to be longer than half-and-hour, or shorter than three hours, or whatever something else.
I also propose that we would be as simple, natural, and relaxed as possible. As simple and natural as small children. And even more simple and natural than children. Let us forget absolutely that we are big dudes, about all our social weight and achievements, that we are rich or poor, about problems all over a life. Let us leave all our shame and prejudices aside. We shouldn't ashamed by our bodies, wishes, performances. We may try in front of each other everything. If we need some help from each other we ask for help, if we want to try something with a fellow, we ask for assistance and explain what assistance we need, if we want to touch each other we simply touch, if we want to masturbate each other, we simply masturbate, if we want to suck each other, we simply suck, and if somebody in something denies, we accept deny or rejections very simple and easy, without being ashamed, offended, or hurt. We are not ashamed, offended or hurt by wishes of each other, but if we don't want to participate in some wish, we just do not participate, that's it. We are just small playing nude boys who are fond of the play with their penises and bodies. If any of us wants to play a role of, let us say, a Red Hood, or a witch Hazel, or a pussycat, or a servant, or an Aladdin, let him play.
We should not be ashamed of erections of ourselves and each other, or jerking in front of each other even if a fellow doesn't participate, or some other involuntarily reactions, for instance, a break of a wind, or voluptuous groaning, or sweating, or face reactions during masturbation and orgasms, or dirty words... We should not be ashamed that we are too old or too young, that we are fat or lean, that we have some scars or pimples, or have some other body specifics. We shouldn't be ashamed and confused that we may misunderstand or do not understand at all each other, we do not bother to ask and re-ask, to repeat and re-repeat something a million of times to avoid misunderstanding. We should not be afraid and ashamed of an ejaculation, if it happens. Even if you, for example, lose your potency and sexual urges, you may easily play with the body of your fellow, masturbate him, caress him, lick him, if, of course, a fellow is not against a play with his body in some way or at all. And if we want to finish the game we just finish the game. If once upon a time after the session we want to restart the game or arrange the next game we just make arrangements. If we don't want to participate in further sessions, we just say that we do not participate and we should not explain the reason.
The privacy of each other should be sacred for each other. It's our nobleness and dignity. We may share our new experience and all our recollections as we want but in any circumstances we should not anyhow reveal identity of each other. We may feel free to communicate each other by emails but do not insist on a meeting and visiting each other without arrangements. We do not keep any bad feelings about each other, only good and pleasant ones. We never jealous to each other absolutely.
What do you think?
– Thanks for the thought-provoking speech. I'm going to think about it some more before I respond but wanted you to know that I got it and appreciate your taking the time to do it.
You didn't answer my questions: are you cut and do you use lube?
– Sorry, I missed your last questions after my wordy meditation :)
I'm uncut and my foreskin helps me in masturbation a lot. Sometimes I use different lubes, just for wonder and pure interest. Usually I do not use any lubrication but my saliva. The more I become excited, the more it is abundant and viscous. When it's absorbed into glans penis completely, I just put another portion of saliva. Milked seminal fluids also serve as a greatest lube. When I'm churning my milk dry, erection and potency become as huge as ever.
We may take our first probing session this weekend. For Saturday and Sunday I can participate from the morning till the late evening, so define what time is better for you. Just circumscribe the event: what you are ready to do (it doesn't mean that we would do all those things) and what things you don't want to do or are not ready to do.
Once again, be as simple and easy for the session as you can. What is matter for me is the session, and it doesn't bother me at all if you have some shortcomings and defects as you may define them for yourself. If you don't want to masturbate at all and want just to watch, do as it's better and in mood for you. You may touch me as you want, no problems, treat and help yourself.
All this I said to make you comfortable with me and relaxed. Your easiness and comfort make me comfort and relaxed too.
– Thanks for your understanding and wanting to make things easy in advance. The immediate news is that I will be going away this Friday for a week, so I won't be able to meet this weekend. Usually weekends are good for me, though, so I hope we can do it on a future weekend.
I like what you said about being simple and natural as children, which is an enviable way to be, especially where sex is concerned. To not have shame or fear and or feel rejection or hurt is also an ideal way to be – again, especially with sex – but as I'm sure you'll agree, it is easier said than done. I propose we get together without expectation or agenda, as if you were coming over for tea, and we can proceed as we both feel we want to. How does that sound to you?
I am cut and usually do not use lube, but I'm willing to try different lubes if you want to bring them. Saliva works well, and is always available and, as someone once said, cum makes the best lube, though by the time it's produced, it's not needed any longer.
– Naked tea will be amazing and funny, I guess. We may animate a great show for our fun. Or do you think that for the first tea we should come in smoking suits?.. Anyway I think that the nude appearance and free self-masturbatory expression from the very beginning are much more interesting than official reception. These little frivolities do not oblige us to do anything else. That is the point. We do not oblige to do anything that is against our feelings and will, and what we do is just to feel ourselves more relaxed than we usually can permit in our regular lives. We may or may not proceed to something else if we wish, but initially we are gathering for masturbatory multiO practice.
I agree that we may be relaxed as little boys but it doesn't mean that every anyone's initiative should be mutually accepted. That's why I have proposed to be ready that although some ideas would not be undertaken by both participants, we should be joined by some common and strong and mutual interest – that is a masturbatory learning multiorgasmic session, and this is higher than our difficulties in details. This interest helps us to perceive and understand that any denial of any of participants shouldn't be embarrassed or offensive for another. This denial in detail doesn't mean the denial in common masturbatory multiorgasmic practice. Otherwise we wouldn't be met. For example, if I wouldn't like to kiss you, it doesn't mean that you are not my bate buddy any more. If I don't want to be your masturbatory buddy I say you directly without leaving you in ambiguous state. And so on. Similarly, I take very easy circumstances that arise from your side. For example, I would like to have a masturbatory party this weekend with you but the fail really doesn't make me too much to bother. My practice is going on with this meeting or without this meeting anyway. I have interest at this practice and open to meetings. You have the interest in that practice also. So when you will be also available you just let me know. And your delaying or silence do change in our common global dedication nothing. Nothing is mandatory. For example, if you decide to touch me, I don't feel obliged to touch you in response.
Our relations should be based on trust and identity protection, I think. We trust each other that we wouldn't hurt or infect or kill or rob each other. From the other hand, we do not oblige to reveal personal details of our lives, including our real names. We are gathering for practice and leave everything from our social identifications aside. Well, accepting these rules of a game put you as a host into greater risk. From the other hand, as a guest coming to others territory I apply myself also to the great risk. So, only if we are both sure in our own pure and peaceful intentions we would meet.
You've got many words from me again. I hope it would help to understand me better. So feel free, if you want, to write your thoughts and ask me questions.
